how to live a life of purpose and letting go of judgement with Percie LeCheminant

meet percie,

an empath, a mother, a wife, a montessori teacher, and so much more. social media can feel negative or heavy a lot of times, but i’m so grateful for the ability to connect with and learn from Percie each day on Instagram. she’s an open book and her heart is so rooted in connection that you can’t help but walk away from a conversation with her feeling seen, heard, valued, and encouraged. the conversation you’re about to read made me feel lighter than i have felt in a very long time, and i could not be more honored to share this with you as the first truth talk of 2021.

Let’s start from the beginning. What were you like growing up?

I’ve always been very - and I say this humbly - authentic and genuine in how I live my life. Even starting at a young, young age, like kindergarten, I could really feel people’s emotions. I remember thinking, “I have these friends but that little boy seems left out so I’m going to play with him.” I was always a big advocate for kids that were getting bullied. I’ve always felt like we’re all human and we all have a place in this world. I’ve always been a deep, deep empath. For a long time I kind of hated that because it was like, “Why should I feel their burdens? Why should I feel sad for them?” But I always knew that I would carry that into motherhood. And I always knew I was going to be a good mom because I just care so much about those around me. I think I was born with that intuitive sense of nurturing. I guess I was just lucky and was born with it. I don’t really see that in my parents, not going to lie. My mom’s a pretty emotional person, so she wears her heart on her sleeve, but I never felt like we were a very emotional family. My dad was a psychologist for teenage girls so he always treated me like I was his patient. Maybe that gave me a sense of wanting to be other people’s therapist? I don’t know but I am so different from my siblings, too. I’m one out of five kids and we’re all just so different. I don’t know. I guess I just like to call myself unique.

How important was faith to you? I think outsiders looking in may see it as “strict” rather than the roots of it and what it means to you. People see the parameters rather than the heart of it.

I did grow up with religion; I grew up in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I grew up in a very white neighborhood, not a lot of diversity. Everyone was Mormon but my parents took us to a lot of cultural fairs and we traveled around a lot and went to museums and events. I think that opened up my eyes to being more compassionate to those who were different than me, and being like, “Well, they’re not Mormon but I still want to play with them.” My parents respected that and allowed that. We didn’t grow up with a lot of money, so I’d see the rich kids and feel left out, but still I was like, “I should still be kind to them and if some people have less than us, we should be kind to them.” I think having a close relationship with Jesus Christ helped me value everyone, no matter what they looked like, where they came from, or what their background was. And seeing that in my siblings, too – they were friends with everyone, too. I did feel like I had to fit in a box because of what I looked like in my religion, but I never let that define me… until I was a teenager. I was a wild teenager.

Teenagers are rebellious, but I also don’t think that rebellion is the right term, because it takes so much courage to question things and change your mind and go off and explore. And you did that – what was that like?

It was rough because, like I said, I was close to my parents but we didn’t have super open communication. When I started to question the church and why there are certain rules, they wouldn’t talk to me about it, really. They would write me letters and say, “It seems like maybe you’re starting to drink alcohol, and you’re doing things you shouldn’t be. Write us a letter if you want to talk about it.” I was like, “Okay, I need to figure this out on my own because I’m not willing to just write letters. We live in the same house. Talk to me face to face.” I’m a very confrontational person in the sense that I want to talk to you about how I’m feeling; I don’t like to keep it inside. It was a very defining time in my life because I feel like from the age of 16 to 21, I was really kind of on my own. I was living with my parents but that’s just a rough age in general. When you feel like you don’t have your parental support, it’s kind of like, “Okay, I’ll just figure this out as I go.” It wasn’t until I met my husband that things kind of changed for me. I was 21. But it was hard.

Were things similar with your siblings? I’m an only child, so I’ve always wondered if siblings band together or if you feel more alone, because you have more people in the same house but you can’t talk to them, either.

I have two older brothers, an older sister, and a younger sister. My two older brothers just always did the right thing. My parents never questioned what they were doing. They did all the things that were expected, like go on an LDS mission and go to college and then get married. My older sister was what you would call a rebellion, too. She ended up leaving the church and she moved out young; I think she was 17 or 18. It was before she graduated and she ended up marrying the guy that she ran away with, essentially. I think they were expecting me to not do that, because it’s like, “Your sister did that so now you need to do what you’re supposed to.” And in their mind, I guess ‘do what you’re supposed to’ meant go to college, get a degree, get married to a returned missionary, get married young and start having kids. But that’s not the path that I was on. I was a college athlete, too, and so I had the influence of football and baseball players and the whole college scene. I think they were much harder on me than any of my other siblings because I was the only true freshman in my family. My brothers didn’t go to college until later, and I started fresh out of high school. I think they just wanted me to kind of have that, get your degree in four years, get married, have kids. Of course, I was like, “Well, I’m not going to do that, then.” It was hard playing soccer and doing college, so it was a lot of following my intuition and listening to where I felt like I needed to be and to go. I think that’s basically how I met my husband. I went to a church activity. I had never been to a church singles activity, but I was like, “Well, this is where I need to go,” and I met him. He was very different from your typical Utah Mormon guy, so we just hit it off pretty quick. We got married within eight months of meeting each other, so it was quick. It was like, “You’re the one. I know you’re the one. Let’s do this,” and then we did a lot of traveling together, my husband and I.

You followed your intuition even as a kid, and it can create conflict when your intuition says one thing but your upbringing or external environment says another. I’ve always had this inherent fear of going to the principal’s office, and trouble makes me so nervous. And it’s weird now how doing the right thing can still be wrong to so many people. How do you ride through that? Did you ever feel any doubts, or anxiety about breaking out of what you had been raised to do or not do?

I had to decide, “What are my values personally?” Not what did I learn growing up, but what feels right and true to me – I had to think about my values. When I started really deciding that, I think I was about 20 or 21; it was right before I met my husband. It was like, “What do I want to take from my childhood and upbringing and make it my own?” I actually started writing my story. I had a journal but I would write almost how I wanted to see my future self. I got this from Rachel Hollis. It’s “Ten Years, Ten Dreams, One Goal.” Who do you want to be in ten years, or what do you see yourself as in ten years? Write it out as if it’s your reality. I wrote, “I’m Percie, I’m married. I have four kids. This is where I live, this is what I do.” Then, these are my ten dreams, so some of my dreams are to have my own Montessori school, be active and run marathons. You have dreams, and then you have one goal that’s the top, almost a value. What is one big goal or value? Mine is always a Christ-centered life. Because I really wanted to be a charitable person, someone who people look up to because I’m a helper. I want that to be my goal… to be someone who people are comfortable with. Your dreams are kind of how you get there, and your story is your motivator. I started writing that out and I realized, “Maybe some of this goes against the grain of what my parents would see as a successful life, but for me, this is where I find my value.” A lot of that was reading self-help books, which I love. I love self-help podcasts. That’s like all I read, all I do. It started out with visualizing and manifesting.

When you choose your faith as an adult, you get to add practices like manifesting or meditations and affirmations, things that aren’t necessarily traditional. How much more important is faith to you when you choose it? Because by you going back and choosing it, you met your husband.

That’s totally how I viewed it. It’s more than just about what you should have; it’s almost like, “You have this testimony of faith, but how do you make it actionable?”

For me, taking action in my faith is doing what I love and what makes me happy – not necessarily doing something because I have to or because I don’t want to get in trouble.

It’s less fear-based and focused more on happiness and faith-based. I think so much of the time, people that grow up religious have so much fear in the way they live their life. They’re doing it out of fear, not faith. That didn’t sound good to me so I was like, how can I change my perspective? I ended up coming back to the church, actually, because I wasn’t active for about six years.

I didn’t grow up attending church every Sunday, but I went to a religious university for my first year of college and it was eye-opening in the sense that it created a kind of, ‘You’re with us or against us,” mentality – at least from my point of view. There didn’t seem to be a lot of freedom, especially in juxtaposition to how I grew up. Something I’ve wanted to ask you is that, when it comes to faith, is it okay to pick and choose what works for you, or is that too self-serving? Where is the balance in it?

I feel like, for me at least, it is about picking and choosing what feels right to me. I am so intuitive and empathic, so it’s like what feels good to me. But I also think, “Where do I find that connection with other people, too, and how can I connect to other people?” Anything that intuitively feels good to me or that I can connect to people, that’s where I feel like I fit into.

How do you find the courage to be yourself even when it goes against other people’s expectations or what they prioritize? You said that you picked your values and as long as you stay true to those, you’re good.? Because on social media, for example, people are always going to have something to say – especially as a mom.

That is hard, especially in Utah, because I feel like Utah is the land of mommy bloggers and influencers. I feel like I can’t even go to Target without feeling like people are looking at me and judging me and other moms. Sometimes you feel like you have to keep up with the Joneses as a mom, no matter where you are. Especially as a Montessori mom because the Montessori world, too, has exploded and part of me thinks it’s not in the best way. There’s such high expectations to have this perfect Pinterest home and mom life. I think what helped me to not be afraid of sharing how I feel is because I know that there’s moms just like me out there who I can relate to. I can say, “This is how I feel,” and I’m sure someone out there feels the same way as I do. It brings me back to connection. I really just care about connection and if there’s someone out there that doesn’t agree with me, then I go, “Okay, we don’t have to be connected. That’s fine. You go connect with someone that’s on your energy level because we’re clearly not, and that’s okay.”

I’ve gotten really good at bless and release. Bless you for giving me your opinion, but I’m going to release you because I’m not feeling the connection.

And that’s not to say that I only talk to people who agree with me. I’m very much not that way, either; I want to talk to people who don’t agree with me because that’s how I grow and how I figure out what feels good to me. But there’s this cancel culture, too, where if we are not agreeing on every little thing then we have to cancel each other. I don’t like that, so I’m like, “How do we bless and release, but also not cancel each other for every little thing?” I don’t know what the solution is. I think we all need to listen to a little more Brené Brown and just be vulnerable for a second and let go of our ego. I love Brené Brown; she’s like my favorite person ever.

I’ve only read one of her books. One comparison I want to make is between self-help and cancel culture, because it seems like if someone isn’t growing the same, or at all, then they need to be canceled. There’s a weird connection between the two.

In the self-help world, a lot of people have problems with Rachel Hollis, which I get. There’s a lot of money in the self-help industry and that is kind of sad to me because I think it does manipulate people and it takes advantage of people’s weaknesses. I do not like Tony Robbins; I think he is very manipulative and takes advantage of people. I’ve always wanted to get into the self-help field for that reason. I know what it’s like to be vulnerable and spend money – I’ve spent like thousands of dollars on workshops and classes and going to these seminars to only leave feeling so much worse about my life. My goal with my Montessori business is to also become a mentor, mostly for moms. That’s what I want my focus to be. I want to be genuine and authentic because we’re missing that in the world, especially on social media. You can come off as being so fine and on top of the world when, really, you’re not. I’m not saying you have to show every scar and vulnerability online, but I think it’s important that we allow that. People are scared to because there’s cyberbullies. Especially as a mom, right? In the last week, the mom influencer world has just gotten really nasty and I find myself kind of in the middle. I wouldn’t call myself an influencer but I have a lot of mom friends in that and it’s just, wow. It’s hard. As an empath, anytime there’s tension, I have to step back and re-center and balance and I guess that just goes back to my faith… just trusting that there is more to this life than what we’re dealing with right now. I just try to spread more light and happiness and goodness. Because people are just so fear-based right now, with everything – like the government’s controlling us, and there’s all these conspiracy theories. I get that we need to be thinking for ourselves and having awareness, but I don’t know, people are just… I think the Trump presidency has really messed with our country mentally and emotionally. We’re all over the place.

Speaking of politics, one thing that I admire about you is that you are so open-minded. And in general, you will dig deep for answers, even if it’s maybe a difficult answer.

I try to be really conscious about what I share, too, at the same time. I see something, it’s alarming to me, I’m going to share it, but I never want to be like, “This is the truth,” because I’ll hop on Instagram and ten minutes into watching people’s stories and they’ll say, “This is the truth. This is what I believe. If you don’t believe this, you’re an idiot.” I try to never make anyone feel that way. Sometimes I probably don’t do it as eloquently as I could, but I just have this sense of really trying to find answers. I think that’s the teacher in me, too.

How can we just live like a conscious life, but also try to see both sides? Because you have to, or else you do fall into fear and hatred and judgement.

That being said, what is something that you’ve had to learn?

A lot, I feel like. I’ve had to learn how to talk to as many different kinds of people as possible. I think it’s okay to change your mind all of the time. That’s how I live my life. And maybe to some people that sounds bad because they think you need to find something that feels good to you and stick to it, but for me, I’m constantly changing my mind and my opinion and my views. Just because you voted for so-and-so, I’m not going to stop talking to you. I’m going to keep talking to you because I want to hear your side. I want to hear how you feel. I think I’ve had to learn who I should and should not keep in my life. Because some people are toxic, and you need to drop them. But not people whom, even if you don’t agree, you can have a symbiotic relationship with. I’ve gotten really good at that. Because before, I never wanted to offend or hurt anyone, so I would just never stand up for myself, even if they were really toxic and hurtful to me. I’ve learned how to stand up for myself but do it in a kind way.

What is something you’ve had to unlearn?

I’ve had to unlearn that you don’t have to constantly focus on your weaknesses to get better.

I feel like I grew up so focused on what I need to fix and what my weaknesses are, and I’ve had to unlearn that and think, “Okay, what are some things I can just add into my life that add value that might help make those weaknesses into strengths?” That’s something I’m still learning today.

It’s hard.

Because it’s like, the self-help world, too, also makes you focus on your weaknesses, at least for me. What do I need to fix, what do I need to change, but really it’s like – what can you add to your life that adds value?

And I see it, too, in the way you raise Juni and let her do her own thing. I also have so much respect for the way that you share her on social media, because it’s never exploitive. It’s one thing to be honest and authentic and say you had a bad day, but sometimes it feels like it’s too much. I’m not a mom, and I don’t mean to judge, but I feel for the kids because all of this is brand new to all of us.

I totally agree, especially the toddler years, too. I have a Master’s degree in Education and I think it’s so hard to say, “This is the right way to parent. This is the right way to be a mom. This is the right way to discipline.” There’s so many different avenues, and I think that’s what makes it hard about Montessori, too. I’ll see something like, “This is what you need to do and how to do it,” and I’m like, “No, it totally depends on the child.” Montessori truly comes down to the child’s personality. I think a lot of people think, “Well, this is how you potty train a two-year-old. This is how you get them to eat,” and I’m like, “No, it’s not that simple.” That’s why I want to get into the parent coaching so that I can get to know individual children and say, “This would probably work for your child. This would not work for a different child,” so I think as much as I try to share, it’s so individual to people. That’s why I feel like I need to start a business because I’ll spend hours every day responding to people, leaving voice messages on Instagram or people ask me a question and the answer is different for every mom depending on each situation. I don’t know what is stopping me. I just get deer-in-the-headlights. I don’t when I’m authentically doing it, but when I sit down to be like, “Okay, this is my business endeavor,” I just shut down. Maybe I need to hire a mentor, I don’t know. I just need to start it, though.

Even though I’m not a mom, I still learn from you.

Yeah, it could totally be for anyone. It’s just a good way to live your life. Intention, meaning, and purpose – at the beginning of 2020, I was like, those are my three words. Because we all felt like 2020 was going to be the best year of our lives, right? At least that was me in January. And then March hit and it was like, “Oh my gosh, the world is ending.” But I’ve continued to think, “Meaning, purpose, intention – how can I do that?” And then I got pregnant, which honestly, was a little unexpected but I’m grateful because it helped me reset and be like, “Okay, again, meaning, purpose, intention. I’m going to bring another child into this world, so I better just focus on that.” And that’s what I do with Juniper. She’s almost 2 and a half but she’s probably the most intentional 2-year-old I’ve ever met. The way that she sees the world, too, is also kind of intuitively in her but I think it’s something you can teach and something that can be learned. It’s something that a lot of us as adults are like, “Oh, I want that. How do I do that?” But if we started teaching kids young, I just think that’s how we’re going to change the world… it’s in our youth.

Definitely. They have that craving to learn.

And they’re not as stubborn as us. They’re willing to unlearn and learn, and as you become an adult, you just get a little more stubborn and a little more set in your ways but I hope that as millennials and the younger generations have more kids, we’re teaching them to be intentional and purposeful and kind and open. And don’t be so stubborn. I feel like we’re just so stubborn as humans; it’s just the natural man. But you can definitely teach yourself to be open-minded and we need more of that.

We do. I think we continue to question things as adults, but we have an edge to it that’s maybe not jaded, but it’s definitely there. You have your Masters. Do you find that there are certain principles that influence you now as an adult that others can take away from it, even if they didn’t grow up that way?

I think everyone needs to find what their strength is and not feel like they have to be good at everything or one specific thing. And that’s why I love personality tests. I don’t live my life by them, but I think there’s a lot of value in finding what your personality is and how you can own it. You don’t need to be like who you idolize. I think people get this vision in their head and they’re like, “In order to be successful, I need to be like this person.” But how can you find what your personal strength is and what makes you happy? I think a lot of people think they’ll be happy if they’re successful, but they’re not doing what’s making them happy. So it’s like, just find that thing that is your element. What really lights you on fire in a good way?

Do you think you can be successful without being happy, or happy without being successful? Or do they go hand in hand?

I feel like for me they have to come hand in hand. I think whatever lights me up and makes me passionate, that’s when I feel successful. If I find myself maybe getting success in a certain area but it’s not my element, then I just can’t be happy. I think to a certain degree, maybe you can feel accomplished and have that sense of achievement, but for me, I think they go hand in hand. If I’m not passionate and driven but I’m still getting success, there’s too many roadblocks for me.

It’s interesting how success and happiness can get clouded by other people, even if it’s unintentional. Whether it’s wanting to make their parents proud, or what society says about needing to be of a certain profession, that influences what it means to be successful. We know each other on social media, and that’s sometimes seen as a highlight reel. We’ve been following each other for a while, but what is something I don’t know about you that you wish I did?

I feel like I’m a pretty open book, but I don’t think people realize how deeply I actually do feel, because I sometimes experience severe, severe anxiety and depression. I don’t show that as much just because it’s so vulnerable but I think it shows that we are human and we’re so connected spiritually. I feel like in 2020 especially, I’ve found myself on such a spiritual journey that it’s hard for me to explain kind of that woo-woo stuff of utilizing the energies of the world and crystals. I’m thinking about how I can talk more about that, because it’s so important that we feel like we are truly connected. I think that’s the vegan in me, too, being in tune with nature. And I love being in nature, hiking and backpacking and all those things.

When it comes to veganism and living sustainably, I love that you make everything you do seem really accessible. It’s not like you have to walk this straight line. You can be vegan and drink a soda. You can go and be productive without accomplishing your entire to do list. Balance changes every day, and that’s a big part of it, too. I tend to struggle with doing things perfectly or not at all. But thinking about our earth, if everyone did a little bit, it would make a bigger difference than making everyone do everything, and some people not following. A lot of it, too, is corporations more so than individual choices. How do we find the balance as a planet of individual choice with pushing the needle forward to restore the integrity of our planet?

I think it’s a lot about challenging people to read the hard things and watch those hard documentaries. Open up your eyes, because I think a lot of times, people shut it out. And that applies to everything – racism, sexism, everything that has systemically gone wrong. With global warming, I try to challenge people to watch that documentary, read that book, and listen to that podcast that’s going to make you uncomfortable. You gotta get a little uncomfy to grow and I think sometimes people shut that off. But that’s how I went vegan. I watched tons of documentaries and I saw things that I want to unsee, but it made me grow. It made me uncomfortable and it made me not like what I was seeing, but that’s, I think, what we have to do collectively as humans. To see that this is happening: there is global warming, there is racism, there is stuff that’s really hard to watch and to feel but you gotta go there. Because I think some people just don’t want to go there.

Because once they do, they can’t undo it. They’ll have to make a change. Some friends who love staying in the dark, though. Change is intimidating.

I think it overwhelms people, too. Once you go down the rabbit hole, you’re like, “Oh my gosh, there’s too much that I need to change.” But it goes back to what I was saying: don’t focus on the weaknesses. Just do one thing that’s going to set you on the path to more sustainably living. I love natural, holistic health but it can be overwhelming. When you find out what’s in your shampoos and skin care and body wash and candles, you’re like, “Oh my gosh, I have to start over. I have to be a whole new person.” No, start with one thing. Get a diffuser instead of candles. Start there. With veganism, just eat meat one less day a week. You don’t have to stop eating meat, but maybe start buying from a local farmer only. Or, maybe cut back on dairy consumption. Just start. I went vegan overnight. I was an extreme one. Not saying do that, but for some people, that works.

Do you as a mom make time for yourself every day?

Honestly, I feel like I do. I feel like I’m really good about that and I value that about myself because I recognize that in order to be intentional and have meaning, I need to set intentions first thing in the morning. I wake up an hour before Juniper.

What does a day in your life look like?

I try to get up around 6:30, and I’ll go on a walk. I love listening to podcasts. I feel like I’m a big podcast person. If I were to recommend anyone else how to better your day, it’s to listen to a podcast. Then I journal. I have like five different journals. I don’t give myself like, “I have to write this certain prompt or do this,” I just write what feels good to me. So, I try to write what I’m grateful for, what I’m looking forward to in my gratitude journal. Then I’ll have a meditation journal if I have a thought that pops up. Journaling is very much a part of my routine. And then just stretching and moving my body in a way that feels good to me. It’s not hardcore, it’s intuitive: how do I feel like moving today? What do I feel like stretching? And then, Juniper and I eat breakfast and then we spend the morning together. No screens, no TV, no technology. We’re just together, so it’s a lot of following her lead. A lot of times she’ll want to go outside, or we just play. I think play is so underrated for adults, too. Montessori, to me, is getting down and playing with your child. It’s not about, “Here’s what we’re doing at 9 o’clock and we’re going to paint at 9:30 and then we’re going to do letters at 10 o’clock.” No, just play. That’s what we did growing up; we just played. Unstructured play is so important. Then we do lunch. She naps in the afternoon and that’s when I try to find purpose. I’ll either read a book or try to work on my Montessori stuff, or sometimes I’ll just watch a show. I just give myself grace and whatever I’m feeling like I can accomplish, I will. Somedays I literally just want to lay on the couch. And I let myself do that. I’m not going to beat myself up for that. Then we have dinner, and then bedtime. We’re pretty chill. I don’t set too high of expectations.

If you had to pick one thing, what is one thing everyone should know how to do?

Slow down. I’m going to pull into the meaning and purpose and intention again. To me, living intentionally is living slowly and purposefully. Not trying to get so many things done in a day, but allowing time to sit and think. To just listen and converse with people in a very intentional way.

Definitely. And you’re so in tune with recognizing the currents and the ups and downs, and going with the pace that feels comfortable to you at the time. What motivates you?

What motivates me is my element, which is adding value to other people’s lives. I can add value to my own life by just being intentional and giving myself grace, but at the end of the day, did I do anything to add to value to someone else’s life?

A lot of that is with Juniper’s life right now, because that’s who I’m with every day and that’s my focus. But it’s even about going to the grocery store, especially right now, and talking to people. I know we have masks on and we’re talking between plexiglass, but just saying one thing to add value to someone’s life is my element. And I think that’s why I love Montessori, because it’s so much about the individual. What can I sense from them that they need? It might just be, “I love your shirt! it’s so cool.” It just can be so simple. It’s not always about having these grandeur ideas. What’s a simple little thing you can do? That’s kind of my element, I guess.

You mentioned this earlier, with cancel culture, but I’m someone who beats myself up over things that happened five years ago. And I worry about things coming back to haunt me, even if my intentions were true and my best. And that’s such an irrational way of thinking. Moving into 2021, what would you say to people who are struggling right now?

What helps me is changing that script in your mind. Thinking of even the top 3 negative comments that you feel like are replaying in your head. For things that are weighing on you, try to shift those into a positive statement. For me, when I’m getting anxious and depressed, those constant thoughts of, “You’re not doing enough and you’re lazy. You’re being complacent,” so I try to change those to think, “I am enough. I am doing enough. I am working my hardest.” Try to shift the script in your head, because really, it’s coming from your own thoughts. Your own inner demons. So how can you shift the script to make it more positive for yourself?

I love that, and I’m going to put that into practice. Your words for 2020 were meaning, intention, and purpose. What are your words for 2021?

I really want to carry those three words into 2021 because I feel like 2020 needs a do-over, right!? I want to focus on adding value to my life and others and when I approach each day with meaning and intention and finding my purpose, I know that will be accomplished.

Lastly, I know you are pregnant and soon to be a family of four, and I’m so excited for you. What else will 2021 bring you?

Thank you so much! I feel so lucky that I get to start out this new year adding a little bundle of joy to the world! How valuable is that!?! This year we also plan to move and make some big career shifts for my husband so we really are just looking forward to change and abundance and following our dreams!

seven questions with percie lecheminant:

I can’t go a day without… podcasts.

Everyone should listen to… Brené Brown’s podcast, for sure. Also, Wake up with Wesley. She’s amazing and has the coolest podcast about manifestation and visualizing and fighting your inner demons. And then Manifestation Babe is one of my favorites, too.

Life is better with a little… chai tea.

Everyone in their 20s should… travel.

One insider thing to do in Salt Lake City… go to every vegan restaurant. The vegan scene in Salt Lake is awesome.